Justin Halpern on Lord of the Flies

What happens when a child raised on television sitcoms and hospital corridors opens his first novel out of necessity?

For Emmy-nominated writer and executive producer Justin Halpern, that moment began with a simple search. He looked through his father’s bookshelf for the shortest book. Instead, he found a terrifying island of schoolboys.

As he followed their descent into tribalism, he discovered a lasting lesson about human nature. That experience also shaped the way he approaches storytelling.

Introduction

When television writer and executive producer Justin Halpern entered the studio, he brought an analytical view of media. He often examines how stories reflect or soften reality.

Halpern has worked across adult animation and network comedy. His credits include Harley Quinn and Abbott Elementary. Throughout his career, he has explored the point where humor meets uncomfortable truth.

However, Halpern once avoided reading. As a student in San Diego, he described himself as mediocre. Then, parental pressure pushed him toward a crowded bookshelf.

He searched for the thinnest book he could find. Instead, he discovered a classic that permanently changed his creative thinking.

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About the Book

Lord of the Flies by Nobel Prize-winning author William Golding tells the story of a group of British schoolboys stranded on an uninhabited island during an unspecified nuclear war. With no adult survivors, the boys initially attempt to establish a rational, democratic society.

However, their civilization quickly collapses into savage tribalism, led by a faction that prioritizes hunting, fear-mongering, and absolute control. Golding's masterpiece serves as a chilling, timeless examination of human depravity, masculinity, and the fragile thinness of the moral systems that keep our primal instincts in check.

The Graceland Brochure and Raw Humanity

The conversation began with an exploration of visual art, as Halpern discussed his fascination with legendary color photographer William Eggleston. Halpern highlighted a rare, highly collectible book in his possession: a Graceland promotional brochure shot by Eggleston that Priscilla Presley immediately hated and threw away.

Eggleston's Visual Paradox:

[Vibrant Pastel Color Palette] ──> [Unsanitized Realism] ──> [Priscilla Presley Discards Brochure]

Priscilla had expected an aspirational advertisement, but Eggleston captured the raw, tacky, and intensely human reality of the small, heavily carpeted estate. For Halpern, this story perfectly illustrates why true high art cannot be commercial or mimetic. To sell something, you must present a clean fantasy; to tell a great story, you must capture raw humanity exactly as it is, without trying to sanitize the view.

Bleak Beginnings in the VA Cancer Ward

This appreciation for raw, unvarnished reality was forged during Halpern's unique childhood in San Diego. His father, a Navy veteran who was on the ship during the Gulf of Tonkin incident, worked as a prominent cancer researcher.

When Halpern was ten years old, his mother went to law school, leaving his father to handle after-school care. Consequently, Halpern spent thousands of hours sitting in the bleak, joyless waiting rooms of the local VA cancer ward.

Halpern's Path to Storytelling:

[VA Waiting Rooms] ──> [Brutally Honest Science Fair Lying] ──> [College Pitching & "Letdown" Fears] ──> [Comedy Writing]

With no internet or video games, Halpern had few distractions. He could only browse medical journals such as the New England Journal of Medicine. As a result, he began observing the world around him more closely.  This environment made him hyper-observant of adult behaviors, sparking a deep internal anxiety about performance and a paralyzing fear of letting people down.

Shaming the Scientific Community

Halpern’s relationship with his father was defined by a strict, hardlined code of absolute honesty. This dynamic came to a dramatic head in junior high during a school science fair. Halpern chose a project testing whether dogs could recognize shapes, but entirely forgot to conduct the actual experiment.

When his father asked for the data, Halpern panicked and lied, claiming his mutt could successfully identify shapes. His father immediately took him outside to demonstrate the findings.

The dog ignored every command. Then, his father opened the project folder and found it empty.

“You have shamed the entire scientific community,” he declared.

Next, he threw the folder into the backyard. The dog quickly fetched it, proving it could at least retrieve paper. This experience solidified Halpern's realization that trying to paint over the truth only leads to disaster.

The Babysitter TV and the Pitcher's Mind Games

Because his parents were rarely home before late evening, television sitcoms became Halpern's primary babysitter. Though weekday television was strictly forbidden, he bypassed the rule by turning the set off exactly ten minutes before his parents arrived. This gave the physical television cabinet enough time to cool down, preventing his father from feeling the back of the set to catch him.

In school, Halpern channeled his nervous energy and psychological intensity into sports, eventually pitching for his college baseball team. He quickly realized, however, that the best athletes possess a certain helpful density—an ability to instantly erase bad plays from their memory.

Halpern's highly analytical brain did the opposite. He overthought every pitch and carried the heavy weight of potential failure, a trait that hindered his athletic career but laid the perfect groundwork for a future in writing.

Resenting the Page and Choosing the Shortest Book

For years, Halpern harbored a quiet resentment toward books because they constantly consumed his parents' attention. He vividly remembers a Saturday morning when his father invited him to Denny's for breakfast, only to pull out a massive newspaper that completely blocked his face for the entire hour.

To Halpern's father, sharing a space in quiet, parallel enjoyment was an act of love; to a young Justin, it felt like being replaced by the printed word. When his father eventually noticed his lack of reading and demanded he finish one book in a month, Halpern searched his father's massive home library solely for the thinnest spine.

That book was Lord of the Flies. The moment he began reading, the narrative clicked into place, and he experienced the exhilarating "roller coaster" ride of a truly masterful story for the very first time.

The Spark of Lord of the Flies:

[Resentment of Books] ──> [Denny's Silent Breakfast] ──> [Calculated Search for Thinnest Spine] ──> [A Lifelong Writing Journey]

The Blueprint of Masculinity and Power for Power's Sake

What fascinated Halpern most about Golding’s work was the deliberate absence of both adults and women. In interviews, Golding revealed he excluded a female presence to examine what happens to men when the only thing at stake is raw power. Halpern saw this as a incredibly progressive, progressive critique of masculinity.

He points to the character of Jack, who begins as a charismatic, ambitious boarding school kid but is warped into a murderer by a combination of rejection, isolation, and a lust for control. On the island, there is nothing of material value—no money, no land, only Piggy's glasses. The boys' violent struggle is entirely for power for power's sake, a dynamic Halpern observes today in corporate titans and political systems.

At the end of the novel, a soldier rescues Ralph instead of a peaceful civilian. This choice creates a chilling irony. The boys long for a civilized adult world, yet that world wages the same tribal violence on a far larger scale. 

Golding's Final Irony:

[Schoolboy Savagery on the Island]  <───>  [Adult Soldier Rescue]  <───>  [Global Nuclear War of Grown-ups]

Comedy as Disguised Truth and Avoiding "Claptor"

This deep understanding of human nature directly shaped Halpern's philosophy on writing comedy. He believes that all comedians are inherently broken, using humor to disguise harsh truths that are otherwise too painful to accept. In his work on Abbott Elementary, Halpern and his team actively fight against writing "very special episodes".

Instead of preaching to the audience about the systemic failures of public education, they prioritize making the show funny first. By slipping the "peas in the mac and cheese," the medicine of truth goes down easily.

Halpern's Comedy Hierarchy:

1. Is it funny? (The foundational, non-subjective metric of comedy)

2. What are we actually trying to say? (The disguised truth underneath)

Halpern heavily values the concept of avoiding "claptor"—a term coined by legendary SNL writer Jim Downey to describe a studio audience clapping in agreement rather than laughing. Claptor is a physical response of safety, whereas a real laugh is involuntary. For Halpern, true high-quality art requires taking creative risks, embracing uncomfortable silences, and punching up at targets that are genuinely hard to hit.

For further reflection on how literature shapes identity and personal growth, explore our discussion with  Andrew East on The Gap and the Gain.

Key Insights

• Power for Its Own Sake Is Destructive: When humans strip away societal structures to pursue control without a tangible, constructive end goal, the resulting tribalism inevitably destroys everything in its path.

• The Power of Disguised Truth: Audiences naturally reject being lectured or condescended to. The most impactful stories use highly entertaining mediums—like comedy or survival thrillers—to trick the audience into confronting complicated moral questions.

• Art Requires Creative Risks over Claptor: Designing art to please everyone results in flat, forgettable content. To create someone's absolute favorite show, you must be willing to draw a line in the sand and make peace with potentially polarizing your audience.

"That is just the fundamental tenant for me of telling stories... to tell a story that was highly entertaining and that made people think about something they don't want to think about. [Lord of the Flies] hooked me in because it was really fun to read and then tricked me into having to think about all these complicated ideas."

Reflection & Call to Action

Justin Halpern's journey from a quiet, TV-watching child in a bleak VA hospital to an acclaimed prime-time showrunner underscores a powerful reality: the stories that truly shape us are the ones that refuse to sanitize our human flaws. If you are ready to examine your own relationship with storytelling and literature, discover more deep-dive interviews by visiting our Books That Changed My Life main blog. You can also stream the raw, uncut audio of this entire conversation directly on our official podcast episode page.

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About the Guest

Justin Halpern is an Emmy-nominated television writer, author, and executive producer. He is best known as the co-showrunner of the hit ABC mockumentary comedy Abbott Elementary and the executive producer of DC's critically acclaimed animated series Harley Quinn. Halpern is also the author of the upcoming father-daughter mystery novel Get Lost, which explores family trauma, unresolved anger, and a locked-box mystery in central California.

FAQ Section

Q: What is the plot of Justin Halpern's upcoming book, Get Lost?
A: Get Lost is a father-daughter buddy comedy and mystery novel set in central California. It follows a woman in her 30s who is estranged from her charismatic but terrible ex-minor league baseball player father. When her mother goes missing under suspicious circumstances, the daughter must team up with her father to solve the mystery and figure out how to move forward without waiting for a family apology that may never come.

Q: What real-life incident inspired the mystery element in Get Lost?
A: The book was inspired by a bizarre real-world article Halpern read about a small, 1,000-square-foot bar in central California. A man walked into the bar and never walked out, and despite unbroken security camera footage covering the only entrance and exit, his body was never found. Halpern decided to combine this locked-box mystery with his father-daughter character dynamics.

Q: What does the term "claptor" mean in television comedy?
A: Coined by legendary Saturday Night Live writer Jim Downey, "claptor" describes a moment when a comedy audience claps because they politically or socially agree with a statement, rather than laughing because something is genuinely funny. Halpern views claptor as lazy writing and believes that true comedy must elicit a visceral, involuntary laugh.

Q: How did Justin Halpern's father react when Justin finally read Lord of the Flies?
A: Despite his strict nature, Halpern's father was incredibly proud. When a young Justin offered to let his father test him on the plot to prove he hadn't just flipped through the pages, his father declined, telling him: "No, it seems like you had a good experience with it. Just keep that".

Final Thoughts

At its core, Justin Halpern’s creative worldview is built on a willingness to sit in uncomfortable spaces. Whether it is a silent, awkward beat in a comedy routine or the bleak realization that humanity is always one step away from our primal instincts, facing the shadow is the only way to find genuine connection. By rejecting simple claptor and daring to punch up at the targets that are hardest to hit, we allow ourselves to create art that doesn't just entertain, but stays with us long after the final page is turned.